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January 6 transcript reveals new details

The House committee investigating the January 6, 2021 attack on the US Capitol has released several batches of transcripts from interviews with key staff members and supporters of former President Donald Trump.

The transcript was made public when the commission finished its work at the end of the 117th Congress. Republicans officially take control of the House on tuesday. Conducted over the past year and a half, the interviews were part of an investigation into the January 6th attacks and Trump’s role in the events of that day.

At their final hearing, held on December 19, the committee voted to refer Potential Criminal Charges Against Trump and Lawyers John Eastman.

Here are the key details from the released transcript.

John Eastman finished fifth

Eastman, who wrote a controversial memo that suggested that former Vice President Mike Pence had the power to delay or deny state electoral certification, was found guilty of self-incrimination on nearly every major question. exercised its Fifth Amendment rights against

When asked why Eastman wrote in a two-page memo that seven states had sent two electoral rolls even though they had shown the New York Times that they had no alternate electoral certificates, he chose the fifth. He also said when asked if he disagreed with former Attorney General Bill Barr’s comment that Trump’s campaign claims were “bullish**,” and he said on Jan. 6 that he did It also took 5th place when asked about the comments.

Eastman also pleaded No. 5 when asked if he had any recommendations to prevent January 6th from happening again.

Hope Hicks says ‘we look like domestic terrorists now’

A text message from Trump’s communications director Hope Hicks, one of Trump’s most loyal aides, reads: liberated by the selection committee on Monday.

In an exchange with Ivanka Trump’s chief of staff, Julie Radford, Hicks wrote: I will be unemployed forever.I am so angry and upset.Now we all look like domestic terrorists.

Radford replied, “Oh yeah, I’ve been crying for an hour.”

Hicks then wrote:she has I can’t believe this has made us all unemployed…it’s just out of control…God I’m so insane. “

Ginny Thomas: ‘I regret the tone and content’ of texts with Meadows

Virginia Thomas, wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, attended a rally in Ellipse on January 6, 2021, before the Capitol was torn down. She also exchanged texts with President Trump’s Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, encouraging him to pursue any efforts to overturn the election.

Committee Vice Chair Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyoming) asked her if she regretted sending the text or simply that it was made public. .

“I regret the tone and content of these texts,” Thomas said. “Other than that, it’s been an emotional time. I’ve been texting with friends I’ve known for a long time. So my wording is really flippant and I don’t want to send the context of these emails.” I regret my choice to do so.”

Kellyanne Conway texted Melania Trump on January 6th.

Kellyanne Conway, Trump’s 2016 campaign manager and former top adviser, stepped down in the summer of 2020 but remained close to the Trump family. Conway told the commission he was trying to reach out to Hicks and Trump aide Nick Luna, among others, on Jan. 6. Conway said he also texted Melania Trump. .

“I texted her. ‘He has reservations — he listens to many of us, but he’s afraid of one person, Melania Trump.’

Conway said the first lady didn’t answer because she didn’t have her phone with her that day.

Stephanie Grisham: Trump will never go to the Capitol because he’s ‘afraid of the people’

Stephanie Grisham, Melania Trump’s former chief of staff and former White House aide, told the commission that Melania Trump had lost her “independent streak” in the final weeks of her administration.

Grisham also said Trump and Chief of Staff Mark Meadows tried to fire White House ushers after Election Day.

At another point, Grisham said Trump didn’t walk into the Capitol on Jan. 6 because he was “afraid of people.”

Cassidy Hutchinson: ‘They will ruin my life’

Cassidy Hutchinson, Meadows’ aide, Big hit public testimony At the January 6th House Committee Hearing on June 28th.

“I wanted to do this myself, and I didn’t want to feel like I was using a lawyer in Trump’s world,” Hutchinson said.

Former White House attorney Eric Hershman connected Hutchinson with Alex Cannon, she said. No. Hutchinson met Stefan Passantino, who represented her in her first two interviews with the commission. At the February meeting, Hutchinson testified what Passantino told her They’ll ‘downplay’ her role The White House and January 6th.

Hutchinson said she felt uncomfortable with the arrangement but felt she had no other choice and told the committee her mother. I don’t want you to ”

Hutchinson said Passantino told her to “shorten” her answer, and that saying “I don’t remember” was a “perfectly acceptable” response. She told the committee that testifying with him as a lawyer “(she) felt like Trump was looking over (her) shoulder.”

“I knew that if I said something that I thought was dishonest, it would come back to him in some way, and the possibility really scared me. I’ve seen the world try to ruin people’s lives and ruin people’s careers… I’ve seen how heinous they are,” Hutchinson said.

She also told the commission that Passantino also mentioned job opportunities, saying, “We will take care of you. We want to keep you in the family.” He said he worked to connect with other people.

[Need to add that Passantino has said that he told her to tell the truth, etc., which I believe was his statement.]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jan-6-transcript-ginni-thomas-hope-hicks-kellyanne-conway-cassidy-hutchinson/ January 6 transcript reveals new details

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